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i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping pertaining to those who have a mental illness or -- >> listen, michael. >> real quick. >> this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they're opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns to each other privately, not through gun stores. so it doesn't matter. >> i was shocked by that. i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. stick around with me for side show and if y
i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had...
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this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the statement of meaningful contributions that the nra said they are ready to discuss? >> we are going to find out on friday. that's when they have a pressure in washington and come forth with whatever their contributions might be. i think the nra will make a gross calculation if they maintain that line in the sand and that position of never giving an inch. one practical consideration in my home, we have four kids. the gifts are wrapped. this won't be a holiday season where we get into christmas and forget. for parents it's going to accentuate the recogn
this is what was airing on the nra webcast. that was very different from the statement that they released. let me play what happened. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-guns. listen to the survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left and adam landry knew what he wanted to do. >> that was the webcast saying that the gun-free zones are not the answer. you would want guns in school zones. michael, is that different than the...
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the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales. they could have taken a real step towards enhancing their credibility. they embarrassed himself. learning apierr emp pm-- lapier resign. the republicans have a choice. break with the nra or have every suburban american that looks like this and says this guy is nuts. if you look at this statement you have to think this guy is whacked. that's a danger for the republicans to align themselves with. >> i know you don't mean this in a flip callous way but your reaction is similar to other people who are not anti-gun, they are a
the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales....
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the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa hutchinson, a former republican congressman from arkansas who said he didn't think new laws and prohibition is the right way to respond to what happened in sandy hook and compared the nra plan to put a trained guard in every american school to the federal air marshal program put in place after 9/11. >> more sensitive that be airplanes. people resisted having weapons on airplanes but i oversaw the federal air marshals and it's a deterrent, no one sees that weapon but they're protected on the airplane and it's a positive impact on safety. schools are a sensitive environment as well.
the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa...
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do you think the nra will support any gun control legislation? go to facebook.come/newsnation to cast that vote. thank you so m we'll see you tomorrow, friday. "the cycle" is up next.
do you think the nra will support any gun control legislation? go to facebook.come/newsnation to cast that vote. thank you so m we'll see you tomorrow, friday. "the cycle" is up next.
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i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in california, others supported the nra. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so, if you have somebody that is armed and you are not, you are part of the problem, you are not part of the solution. >> i think it's a good idea. but you are going to have to train these people on how to use weapons. because once you start shooting inside of a classroom, someone will get hurt. the thing is not to let the intruder go into the classroom. >> reporter: how many armed guards to you need? every room, every door? the nra did not take questions after making the statement. don? >> thank you very much. lots more to
i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in...
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nra ceo wane lapiere. >> we care about our money. so we protent our banks with armed guards -- protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plans, courthouses. even sports stadiums. are all protected by armed security. >> i call on congress today to act immediately and appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation and do it now. >> eric: rather than go in diatribe where i think gun shows should be i'll show what you said monday. >> think about every bank you have been in to. tell me a time you have seen a bank which is not guarded with someone a professional with or without a gun or knows what he is doing. show me a bank that doesn't have a guard i'll show you a bank that will be robbed. why is not time to put trained professionals, i'm not saying arming administrators, putting someone who knows how to handle themselves and a weapon at the door of every school in america. if we do it for banks we can do it. >> eric: there may be a whole host of reason
nra ceo wane lapiere. >> we care about our money. so we protent our banks with armed guards -- protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plans, courthouses. even sports stadiums. are all protected by armed security. >> i call on congress today to act immediately and appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation and do it now. >> eric: rather than go in diatribe where i think gun shows should...
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various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but this statement actually was different. "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." the nra's planning to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21st. a major news conference planned for tomorrow in response to that mass shooting. as far as we can tell, the nra has never reacted to a mass shooting in the way that they are very proudly promoting this news conference for tomorrow. they've certainly never said anything like they said in this statement about being prepared to offer meaningful contributions
various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a "f" rating. do you think that now is the time for the president to be able to -- to control this issue in a more positive direction, when i talk about control this issue, i mean the sentiment and the emotion that goes in to all americans responding to what we saw in newtown. >> you know, i don't think he has a choice with 80 million american moms coming at him. we have done nothing before and hasn't worked. i think the nra and frankly many congressmen laid out what they see for us in the country where the bad and good guys are armed and duke it out over our kids' heads. we won't al
we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a...
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and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more people, and arming more school officials which is just insane. arming teachers, arming--i don't know what. but if that's really the way they go, i think it's going to be so self marginalizing and so self-discrediting. you're right there was a poll this summer, i'm sure that's what you're alluding to, about n ra members and two-thirds of them believe there should be restrictions on the semiautomatic and automatic weapons. two-thirds of the nra members. but the nra leadership, they're holding out for the most extreme element. if that's where they want to go and if that's where all the repu
and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more...
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a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. we've decided to we're all having such a she great year in the gulf, put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and nat
a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a...
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i don't know that the nra has the kind of grip, the physical grip, that it believes it has. it does, however, have a psychological grip, and i think it's time we broke it. >> right. karen, the president was incredulous at wednesday's press conference when it was suggested the political will to act on gun control will fade in a brief amount of time. take a listen. >> i would hope that our memories aren't so short that of what we saw in newtown isn't lingering with us, that we don't remain passionate about it only a month later? >> isn't it incredible that he was having to say that in less than a week after a horrific shooting? >> yeah. it is, but let's think about the reality of this town. here we are awaiting, you know, the fiscal cliff, and we all know if anything is going to happen, it's going to come right down to the wire because things don't happen in this town, this is the new habit, i guess, until we are in a crisis mode, and so i think the question -- the president is exactly right. there's no reason that a month from now there shouldn't be the same level of passion
i don't know that the nra has the kind of grip, the physical grip, that it believes it has. it does, however, have a psychological grip, and i think it's time we broke it. >> right. karen, the president was incredulous at wednesday's press conference when it was suggested the political will to act on gun control will fade in a brief amount of time. take a listen. >> i would hope that our memories aren't so short that of what we saw in newtown isn't lingering with us, that we don't...
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membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership of the nra, there's a notion it's these mom and pop hunters, but at the end of the day, there's a huge amount of corporate support. we looked at their tax returns, bloomberg business week did, we looked at that article, their revenue in 2010 was $227.8 million. fundraising, sales, advertising, and royalties were $115 million. there's a whole web, tiers of corporate giving dubbed the ring of freedom, and you have firearm manufacturers who are giving millions, if not tens of millions of dollars, to the nra, eric. >> they made a stat
membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership...
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prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our children, we have a responsibility to try it. >> that statement builds on the president's call for congressional action early next year. >> i will be putting forward very specific proposals. i will be talking about them in my state of the union and we will be working with interested members of congress to try and get something done. >> vice president joe biden is leading the push to draft those proposals, and yesterday he began that effort, meeting with law enforcement officials and cabinet members. i want to go right to you, michael eric dyson. you saw as much
prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our...
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nra president david keene was on cbs "face the nation. quths "i want you to listen. >> the first thing we have to do is protect the kids. we're willing to debate the whole question of these semiautomatic so-called assault weapons. >> you are no. >> we debaded it before. we had an assault weapons ban for ten years. we had what senator feinstein is suggesting. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department and others who studied it said it made no difference. if we're looking at things that are effective, let's talk about them. but first let's talk about protecting our kids. >> ken, don't go anywhere, we'll get your answer to what he had to say after this quick break. >> okay, don. you need a little♪ ♪ ooh baby, can i do for you today? ♪ [ female announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance? align can help. only align has bifantis, a patented probiotic that naturally helps maintain your digestive balance. try align to help retain a balanced digestive system. try t #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align.
nra president david keene was on cbs "face the nation. quths "i want you to listen. >> the first thing we have to do is protect the kids. we're willing to debate the whole question of these semiautomatic so-called assault weapons. >> you are no. >> we debaded it before. we had an assault weapons ban for ten years. we had what senator feinstein is suggesting. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department and others who studied it said it made no...
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primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no. >> thanks to all of you. >> thanks for having us. >> join us tomorrow from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. eastern. and we will be joined by tennessee republican congresswoman blackburn and congressman cohen. and be sure to catch "meet the press." check the local listings for that time. until then, have a very great saturday afternoon.
primarily because of the strong opposition by the nra. you know, the nra has been a very powerful lobby in washington. they have spent, you know, this past elengz cycle spent $18 million to -- on issue ads and a million dollars in direct contributions to political candidates. >> when you start -- 15 seconds to you catherine, will this happen, will this change in this coming congress? >> if congress is successful in taking care of the fiscal cliff is an indicator i can say no....
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> a morning show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hoo
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try...
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i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible members of the national rifle association. the one guns to hunt. they want guns to protect their home of their house. the recommendation of an arms escalation in america is not, i think, a solution the american people believe i am very hopeful that we will go in a direction which will say that these weapons of mass killing capability will be limited. magazines will be limited. we will make sure that people who have access to dangerous weapons in fact are mentally healthy, to the extent that we can get there. i do not think those remarks, which i think or unfor
i think the way the nra is approaching this is irrational. i think the american people understand that. they were expecting a completely different response. i think what we are looking for from the nra is a more collaborative approach. what can you bring? what can you talk about that will move the country forward? >> i do not believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i do not believe, frankly, that they represent the majority of views of responsible...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our busine
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. at usaa, we...
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. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just wonder -- this long after a mass killing like that, little 6 and 7-year-olds, there is not a single republican in america, in elected office, not going to step up and say something? >> i think that says something in itself. >> i think it is time to talk, guys. one way or the other, where do you stand on this issue? >> joining me this morning is connecticut congressman joe courtney. good to have you here. the president is speaking in 45 minutes from now to announce this new interagency task force on gun control. he's not expected to announce an
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made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen, bow and bend over and are afraid
made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be...
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. >> protesters with signs the nra is killing our children and nra has blood on their hands disrupted the remarks. democrats leading push for renewed ban. said the statement did not represent view of the own membership. >> the prevalence that allows the shooter to expel, 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets and distraction how easy is it to purchase weapon at gun show with no background check at all. >> at the white house, president obama released video message to all of those who signed petition clamoring for tighter gun regulations. >> i asked for the proposals by january. i will push for them early in the year. i will do everything to advance the efforts. if there is even one thing we can do as a country to protect our children, we have a responseability to try. >> lapierre announced retension of the hutchison to develop model school safety program that each school can tailor to its own needs. >> reasonable fellow. see what he comes up with. thanks. >>> a week after he was accused of child sexual assault, william b. arey resigned as the director general and ceo of moose internatio
. >> protesters with signs the nra is killing our children and nra has blood on their hands disrupted the remarks. democrats leading push for renewed ban. said the statement did not represent view of the own membership. >> the prevalence that allows the shooter to expel, 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets and distraction how easy is it to purchase weapon at gun show with no background check at all. >> at the white house, president obama released video message to all of...
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nra may have fired up its base. but the nra did nothing to help its cause here on capitol hill. quite the opposite. what we've heard from lawmakers today in the wake of that wasn't even a press conference he didn't take questions. in the wake of that statement that wayne lapierre made was that the impetus now -- they almost have fresh momentum. we heard diane feinstein one of the principal authors of gun legislation that has new life now. she says it doesn't matter how long it takes it may take a year, two years, three years, the conventional wisdom is after the horror from newtown dies down somewhat, after the outrage and anger has subside, congress doesn't get down to case until february after the inauguration, after the state of the union. she says they will not knuckle under they will keep at it. she's talking about buy back legislation, buy back of gun legislation. these talking about strengthening the federal firearms act, closing those loopholes for registration for background checks. bill clinton called her offering to do whatever he could to provide more impetus to push
nra may have fired up its base. but the nra did nothing to help its cause here on capitol hill. quite the opposite. what we've heard from lawmakers today in the wake of that wasn't even a press conference he didn't take questions. in the wake of that statement that wayne lapierre made was that the impetus now -- they almost have fresh momentum. we heard diane feinstein one of the principal authors of gun legislation that has new life now. she says it doesn't matter how long it takes it may take...
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the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious, violent video games. i mean, we have blood-soaked films out there. a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke. and they play murder, portray murder as a way of life. and throughout it all, to many in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as conspirators. >> music, video games, videos, at one point he blamed hurricanes for whatever is the bad thing that happens next. but definitely not guns
the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and...
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. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that will take place. what i'm saying is it's not the solution. i want to look f
. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take...
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. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the fact about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saults on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the vie lensz. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. almost 24 hours ago, president obama called for a change in this country. now, it's up to all of us to make sure changes come to pass. the community of newtown connecticut is still deeply mourning the lives of 26 people, 20 of them children. the president struck an almost impossible balance of heartfelt emotion and out rage.
. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the fact about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saults on the role...
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the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's campaign against him. and just somedays before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, the nra was actively fear mongering over gun laws. an nra spokesman told the washington examiner on december 5th that the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we've told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme court stacked with anti-gun judges. the president has a variety of om options and a disposal we don't take any of them for granted. let's turn to mark glaze.
the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's...
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it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff. david corn is the washington bureau chief for mother jones magazine and msnbc contributor, jared bernstein was chief economic adviser to vice president biden. gentlemen, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to meeting with senate majority leader harry reid. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner, and i also met with senator reid. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protects unemployed f
it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with...
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this is not just an issue of the nra and where the nra sits on issues. gun crime is down. violent crime is down. these mass shootings are up. what is the x factor here? is it the guns or is it something else? there is strong evidence that points to something else. >> i would add all three guns used in the shooting purchased legally. connecticut has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. >> they do. >> fred, you've polled for many years on this and many other topics. the numbers on gun control broadly not speaking the last two weeks but broadly suggest the country is -- would prefer less strictures rather than more to enforce what we have rather than more. we've seen the numbers change a little bit. is this an upward trend or not? >> i don't know. i think the jury is still out on this, chris. i think in terms of this, is this a tipping point moment, it is, but it all depends on what it is. is it a tipping point moment where the congress and the president moved in one direction? >> right. >> is it a tipping point moment from the nra in terms of its image with the p
this is not just an issue of the nra and where the nra sits on issues. gun crime is down. violent crime is down. these mass shootings are up. what is the x factor here? is it the guns or is it something else? there is strong evidence that points to something else. >> i would add all three guns used in the shooting purchased legally. connecticut has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. >> they do. >> fred, you've polled for many years on this and many other topics....
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot to say again about who he thinks is to blame. have a listen. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political -- for 20 years they always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible
what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least they tried to do something. but they took no personal responsibility. and no intro aspects at all. it was disgusting to most americans. is there any evidence at all that putting armed guards in school will protect children? >> i mean, there just doesn't seem to be any evidence of it. certainly senator bloumenthal doesn't think so and we didn't get a chance to ask questions of the nra, because they didn't take questions from reporters. plenty of parents would not be comfortable with certainly having more guns in schools. for example, in the shoo
. >> this is my nra club card. i want to show you my tribute and how outraged i am at the loss of life in newtown. connecticut. this is what i'm going to do with this card. that's it. >> now, while many gun owners agree with the nra stance that retired police officer from michigan that you saw sent cnn a video he made where he cuts up his nra card. don? >> listen, about putting armed guards in school. that has been proposed before. so it's nothing new. and it's good at least...
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you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so forth, but putting this on the table, talking about the mental health part and what cultural influences might send people off in a direction like this, would be a very good process. we want to prevent things like this from happening, and the best way to do that is to consider all of the angles. what is it in our culture that is limiting it's a to this. >> jennifer: would you be in favor of closing the gun show loophole that prevents people who may be mentally ill from having a background check? >> yes, and on a state level there a are things that states c
you are somebody who the nra has given an a rating to. and what specific solutions are you able to put on the table to prevent this from happening again. >> what i have said is that pro-gun people should not be afraid to have this discussion and put all of the facts on the table and see what could be done to prevent it. how do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally unbalanced people appears to be a huge challenge in our society, because it gets in to privacy and freedom issues, and so...
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there has been complete silence from the nra. this is the first time we've heard from them since friday. the statement from the nra reads in part, i'll quote you this part first, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. well, the statement went on to say that the nra will hold a quote unquote, major news conference on friday of this week. meantime, several national retailers are already making changes in light of what happened on friday. dick's sporting goods has removed all guns from its store in danbury, connecticut. all guns. that is its closest outlet to newtown, where we are tonight. they also stopped selling modern sporting rifles at all stores nationwide. on walmart's website, you will find plenty of guns but not the type of bushmaster rifle that adam lanza used. the chain has taken down that web page. at
there has been complete silence from the nra. this is the first time we've heard from them since friday. the statement from the nra reads in part, i'll quote you this part first, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. well, the statement went on to say that the nra will hold...
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but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in gun safety. i can think of a piece of legislation in 2007, the nixon improvement act to incentive states to report of people to be mentally disabled or a danger to themselves or others or suicidal. in to a national database. that was legislation written by the nra. passed by george w. bush. i would expect to see more efforts along those lines. around mental health. i know because i know the nra that they're interested in having a conversation. but they want to talk about what works. and unfortunately, calling a school a gun-free zone and slapping a sticker on it is an immoshl lack of attention to the issue of s
but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in...
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the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks on what la pierre has said. but again strange silence we have had all week specifically from the republican leadership on, you know, it's what's next as far as getting in the whole dialogue of sensible gun controls and other aspects of really the whole problem that we all agree needs to be reexamined. >> thank you, hampton. sue? >> you got it. >> michelle, as you know, we are awaiting president obama's news conference. he is expected to nominate senator john kerry as next secretary of state. well take that live when it does occur. plus, with the fiscal cliff follies upon us, how do you protect your p
the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press" yesterday and had strong words calling on the president to exhibit leadership on the issue. i think there is a sense nationally that this time is different. we just talked to chris jansing on the ground in newtown, but that there is -- that i think for folks who have wanted to see reform on our nation's gun laws, that this could be an inflexion point. does the mayor share that feeling? >> he hopes so. you know, i may be alone in this, but i am just no longer comforted by comforting words. i feel like as the governor said, you know, we've become very good at doing these memorials after these events and then nothing
even nra members, 74% of nra members and 89% of all gun owners want background checks before anybody can get a gun, so the men and women in congress have to stiffen their backs, not be afraid of the organization the nra, because the members of the nra are better than the organization, and it's time for us to act finally once and for all. >> howard, your boss, mayor michael bloomberg, has been leading the charge on gun control throughout the year. he was on "meet the press"...
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ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including adva
ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." the washington post assigns a certain number of pinochios to politicians that might be factually challenged. we were part of the big ones saying that je
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem, chris. it's become this slippery slope argument, which is any -- >> i hate that phrase. >> i hate the slippery slope. >> okay. let's say assault weapons or these high caliber -- these high pack rounds, if they do that, what will they do next? >> find a way. let's be honest about it. can we be honest about it? >> you can't have a discussion -- >> you know what the problem is? there is a sliver of american people who are anti-gun. they would like to go around the country and collect every gun. let's be honest, they are there, they live in big cities, in apartments, they think the police will be there to protect them.
this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem,...